2011/02/20

González Byass: You will be a message

If you are good (or if you are bad but unsackable) you will eventually get sent on a course where you will eat and drink as much as you can while some loon repeats to you glib mantras derived from Ciceronian oratory. One of these, "you are the message", turns up slightly disguised on the "thanks" page of the González Byass website:


Customer focus or fucked translation? I'll get back to you with the answer, sortly.

[
Contributed by Warren Edwardes, who writes about food and wine, and would be delighted to sell you some of the latter.
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6 comments:

Candide said...

Obviously, that message was by ass.

trebots said...

Ouch ouch ouch.

Peter Harvey said...

I'm not sure it's a translation. One very curious mistake that I have noticed over the years among my students is that they confuse 'be' and 'have'. Why they do so I cannot imagine, but that they do so is a fact.

It looks to me like bad construction by a native Spanish-speaker.

Candide said...

Strange what Peter says. I guess that's just with the very beginners or children?

But we're losing the whole Zen-ish philosophy behind it. And there's also a book by one Erich Fromm: "Haben oder Sein". So it's not only Zen. It's fucking fundamental!

Which brings us back to drinking. Esta cuestión tiene solera.

Peter Harvey said...

No. I teach adults, mostly intermediate or above.

Candide said...

Oups.

Actually I don't think there's any hidden philosophical question. If it's not alcohol induced, we now learn that it comes from some general cultural or specifical linguistic *bias*.

Like the "e" they always introduce before an initial "s". I think I have observed that even teachers (if Spanish) do so. And it's really tough trying to stop them (all the speakers) doing so.

On a little side note: Peter, I disagree that this is not about translation: not doing the translation/checking professionally (i.e. letting a non-native do foreign texts) is entirely an issue of fucked translation.